If you couldn't tell by the character sheets on the side, I play Alliance on Khadgar, and as long as I've played there, there is one very simple rule for loot distribution:
Pass on BoPs
I dont really run into that rule now as a 70, because pretty much every group I play with has veterans of the server who accept the rule as law and dont question it. A lot of new players, however do. I was like that once, but if you group enough as you level, you will keep hearing it and keep encountering it, and more experienced players will force the rule down upon you.
From what I've come to understand the rule is there so you can have more time to decide after combat is over on who deserves to actually roll for need on it. There have been plenty of times while levelling where people would get item crazy and roll on things they didnt necessarily need at all, only to get shouted down by the group to l2p. Should the debate on "needing" the item end in the result that it should be "greeded", the item then can be picked up by an enchanter and sharded. Early on the shards dont mean much, since newbie characters can afford to pay for nice enchants when they can barely pay for their lvl 40 mount when they ding 40, but later on their economic importance becomes realized.
But of course it leaves the system wide open for ninjas. Nothing's stopping anyone from picking up items either by clicking need after everyone has passed, or self looting the item after passing and discussion about who it goes to is under way. But ultimately its just a 5 man drop. I'm sure Master Looter was a lot more prevalent during the old days of PuGing 10 mans, or participating in 40 man raids. But for 5 mans it doesnt really seem that important to use it in order to ensure somone isnt going to ninja the item, as while levelling, the only people who really care about missing out on a blue item tend to be newbies, and at lvl 70, its not [i]that[/i] much of a hassle to run instance X again and again until the item drops.
3 comments:
I disagree with this. Pass on BoP made sense before they introduced the Need / Greed differentiation. Passing out of an atavistic reaction going back to what, 2005 or early 2006 is, as you pointed out, leaving the door open for ninjas. If you need, you need. If you don't, proper etiquette would be to pass, but this makes only really sense when there's someone who can DE.
The two buttons are there for a good reason, the timer is long enough, and it's not like you were in a 25-men raid where several people could lay valid claims.
The courtesy would be to ask "anyone mind if I need (because it does blah for me)?" and then press the button. But pass when you need is a thing of the past.
The post is more about how almost every 5-man PuG I've done on Khadgar everyone would pass on BoPs... (and trying to rationalize the crazyness to outsiders. we're all insane on Khadgar Alliance!)
There were a few runs as a newbie with other newbies where we would just use the built in greed/need buttons, but I haven't done a single TBC 5-man where we didnt either all start out agreeing to pass on BoPs, or did it automatically without discussing it.
There are few times where people who see an item drop that they REALLY want and will start shouting how they are clicking need, and anyone else interested in getting it should do so as well. But most of times people will pass on items they see that they want and then do a /roll for it.
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